U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Visits 海角破解版 School of Law

Her 鈥渇ireside chat鈥 with Judge Bruce M. Selya marks eighth time a high court justice has addressed 海角破解版 law students

Edward Fitzpatrick
U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg talks to 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Senior Judge Bruce M. Selya
During a "fireside chat" today at Roger Williams School of Law, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg spoke with 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Senior Judge Bruce M. Selya on topics ranging from partisan battles over judicial nominations, her role in fighting gender discrimination, her friendship with the late Justice Antonin Scalia, and even her workout routine. Image Credit: James Jones, Photography RI

BRISTOL, R.I. 颅颅鈥 U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg spoke at the 海角破解版 School of Law on Tuesday, recounting how groundbreaking court rulings have helped to expand the concept of 鈥淲e the People.鈥

Ginsburg talked to more than 200 law students, faculty and staff during a 鈥渇ireside chat鈥 with 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Senior Judge Bruce M. Selya. She addressed partisan battles over judicial nominations, her role in fighting gender discrimination, her friendship with the late Justice Antonin Scalia 鈥 and even her workout routine. The event was part of 海角破解版鈥檚 year-long series, 鈥Talking About Race, Gender and Power.鈥

During a question-and-answer session, a law student asked what decision has had the biggest impact on the young generation, and she cited the Supreme Court鈥檚 2015 ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges, which held that the Constitution guarantees a right to same-sex marriage.

鈥淚t鈥檚 another example of how society has changed and the court is catching up,鈥 Ginsburg said. 鈥淲ith the gay rights movement, people looked around and said, 鈥楾hat鈥檚 my next-door neighbor鈥 or 鈥楾hat鈥檚 my daughter鈥檚 best friend.鈥 There wasn鈥檛 that 鈥榳e/they鈥 anymore.鈥

When it was written in 1787, the Constitution鈥檚 opening phrase 鈥 鈥淲e the People鈥 鈥 referred to white, male property owners, Ginsburg said. 鈥淥ver the course of our history, the composition of 鈥榃e the People鈥 has expanded. It now includes the people left out at the beginning,鈥 she said. 鈥淪o the idea of an embracive society that not simply tolerates but appreciates differences I think is what made our nation great.鈥

Selya noted that both he and she were confirmed as judges with overwhelming bipartisan votes, but in recent years Supreme Court nominees have been the subject of bitter partisan battles. Ginsburg said U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, was her biggest supporter on the Senate Judiciary Committee, but she agreed that recent high court nominees have not received the same kind of bipartisan support.

鈥淪ome day I hope we will get back to the way it was,鈥 Ginsburg said. 鈥淚 think it would take great leaders on both sides of the aisle to say, 鈥楲et鈥檚 stop this nonsense and start working for our country the way we should.鈥 鈥

Ginsburg said she does not want the public to get the impression that the federal courts are 鈥渏ust another political branch of government.鈥

鈥淲e have a great federal judiciary,鈥 she said. 鈥淚 hope we can keep it.鈥

Ginsburg, 84, has faced two bouts of cancer, and at one point Selya asked, 鈥淗ow do you feel now?鈥

鈥淚 feel fine,鈥 she replied, prompting applause. 鈥淚 attribute my good health to my personal trainer,鈥 who has written a book about her workout routine. 鈥淢any reporters want to know about the routine,鈥 but 鈥渕ost of them can鈥檛 do it,鈥 she said, drawing laughter.

Selya asked about her friendship with the late Justice Scalia. 鈥淓ven though we were often an opposite sides, we鈥檇 go over each other鈥檚 opinions,鈥 she said. 鈥淢y suggestions were: 鈥楴ino, you should tone this down 鈥 you鈥檇 be more persuasive.鈥 And he would call or come to my chambers and say, 鈥榊ou had a couple of grammatical slips in this opinion.鈥 He always did it on a personal level so he wouldn鈥檛 embarrass me.鈥

Ginsburg said she and Scalia shared a love of opera, and she described the comic opera titled 鈥淪calia/Ginsburg.鈥 In the opera, she recounted, the Scalia figure says, 鈥淭he Constitution says absolutely nothing about this鈥 and the Ginsburg figure replies, 鈥淭he great thing about our Constitution is that like our society, it can evolve.鈥

Ginsburg鈥檚 visit marks the eighth time that a sitting or retired U.S. Supreme Court justice has addressed 海角破解版 School of Law students. Justice Anthony M. Kennedy gave the law school鈥檚 first commencement address in 1996, and law students have since heard from Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. (2008), Justice Antonin Scalia (2008), Justice Stephen G. Breyer (2011), Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. (2012), Justice Elena Kagan (2013) and retired Justice Sandra Day O鈥機onnor (2013).

海角破解版 School of Law Dean Michael J. Yelnosky introduced Ginsburg, citing a song Jews sing during Passover 鈥 鈥凄补测别苍耻鈥 鈥 that enumerates blessings, celebrating that any one of them alone 鈥渨ould have been enough.鈥

鈥淛ustice Ginsburg would be worthy of acclaim because she was the first woman named to the Harvard Law Review, and she graduated at the top of her class at Columbia Law School in 1959,鈥 Yelnosky said. 鈥淚t would have been enough that while teaching she co-founded the Women鈥檚 Rights Project of the ACLU, and while teaching she engineered and executed the legal strategy that led the Supreme Court to strike down gender-based government classifications as a violation of the constitution鈥檚 guarantee of equal protection.鈥

鈥淪urely, it would have been enough that in 1993 she became only the second woman to serve on the nation鈥檚 highest court,鈥 Yelnosky said. 鈥淏ut of course, there is more. She has become perhaps the best known justice in the history of the court, and she has chosen to be with us today. Dayenu.鈥